not talk about joe biden. who was kind of everywhere on the parade route, oh, they won't let me do this, he's running around, shaking hands, embodying joe biden to the fullest. joe biden dropped by the iowa state society ball on saturday night, he has been very open, frankly, as open as anybody, thinking about running, there's the footage, love him, joey b., 70 years old, 70 years young. he's been very open, sort of, about his interest in running for president, potentially. this is someone who has run for president twice in the past. he could have stopped by any number of state balls, correct? >> chris, at the very least, he is laying the groundwork for a potential 2016 bid. it's not a certain thing. we are going to see what hillary clinton does. if she decides she wants to run, i'm pretty sure the field will be completely cleared for her. but if she doesn't, joe biden wants to be in that conversation. maybe he runs, maybe he doesn't, but if you are even at least thinking about it, you're meeting with the governor of new hampshire, the democratic governor, you are chatting with folks from i